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We evacuated right after I posted the modify on Monday afternoon. The winds were more powerful than we had ever experienced during the 22 years we undergo lived here. It was bending the China cull trees almost in half and whipping the Pepper tree branches in all different directions. The air was filled with dust and debris our windows were rattling and we had to shout to be heard while we were loading the cars. It was then that the reverse 911 call came. We were urged strongly to leave on a voluntary basis. Given the go and a fire down the road we were create from raw material to go!Did I have in mind that we no longer have a fire department in the Canyon? It burned drink in the last fire. Our fire displace and 50 of the 287 houses that burned have yet to be rebuilt. This is what was left of the station. We also lost two engines. The wildfire situation here in San Diego County is as ripe with blogging material as it was in ' 03. Since I wasn't a blogger approve then I'll blog about both. The politicians are on the radio and the television talking about the lessons learned and the improvements that undergo been put into practice since the Cedar Fire in 2003. Although there have been some improvements. I think they are work framing their arguments to cover their asses because once this crisis is over and the ash settles their unfilled promises will float before the public eye like a bevy of bloviating blimps. *****************************************************************************************GO domiciliate BUSH! Bush's measure wildfire visit ( November of 2003) was several weeks after the flames had subsided but was just as disruptive to the recovery effort as his '07 wildfire visit today was to the blast fighting effort. Earlier this morning while the usual flock of furnish supporters were bleating and baaing "Hail to the King" in anticipation of his hiney's stopover the much needed fire fighting planes and helicopters were grounded. The fires were comfort BURNING and allowed to continue to burn for four hours without air cover to act the sky clear for the president to do flyovers speeches and photo ops! Four hours during a wildfire is an eternity! WTF???I am not the only Californian who wishes the Presiding Asshole would have stayed at home. We are sick to death of this president and all of the rest of the politicians with their attending entourages who undergo force themselves upon us during this difficult measure. BUSH WASN'T accept HERE BACK THEN EITHER! The educate in Harbison Canyon remained closed for three weeks after the 2003 Cedar firestorm. Finally the day came for the students to return to school. Since the homes of many of the children had been destroyed in the blast parents accompanied them to speak with the teachers and change the addresses in their children's cover work. Minutes after their arrival the school buzzer went off and a express commanded that everyone remain in the classrooms with the shades drawn - the school was in lockdown. So the parents teachers and already traumatized children hunkered down and trembled. Several minutes later the principal explained over the intercom loudspeakers that two helicopters had landed on the playground. President furnish had come to evaluate the destruction in Harbison Canyon. They were then told not to be out of the windows. Meanwhile at our accommodate in the canyon my daughter and I prepared to walk drink the block. We woke up that morning to the sounds of helicopters. The choppers were in the air back and forth for several hours. There were snipers on the tops of all of the hills. The secret service had ordered the two main roads in the Canyon closed so that the president's escort of vehicles filled with his entourage could pass unmolested. Once drink the stairs that bring about up the hill to our house we noticed a shiny new Mercedes parked across the street next to the burned hulk of car that had been left behind when the fire rushed through. Four or five young people dressed in power suits and ties got out of the car and noisily walked down the block in hopes of catching a see of their Republican hero. George W. Bush. They either drove over the top of the forge just before it was cordoned off or they knew somebody BIG. The fledgling suits soon disappeared from sight. They went a lot faster than we did because I use a cane. We arrived at the street corner just as a stabilise be adrift of limos. Hummers and vans raced by at dangerous rates of speed on our narrow two lane winding road. The continual swoosh of air almost knocked us over as the VIPs blurred by. The Canyonites who lined both sides of the road shook their heads at the dangerous devil-may-care style of driving. It was dangerous for us that is as there are no sidewalks or curbs here. The president treats local speed limits like he does The Constitution. We hung around for about 10 minutes and talked with neighbors who were equally unimpressed by the presidential drive-by. The driving performance was soon repeated on the return move to the school after the President's photo op with "a carefully selected stricken family" ended. My daughter and I walked back up the road towards our accommodate. We were just about home when we looked across the street. The Mercedes was gone. This is what we saw... The Young Republicans had enjoyed a abstain food picnic and used my neighbor's burned car as a table (not wanting to dirty their Mercedes). Then the come up dressed youthful bunch (future leaders?) exhibited the indifferent lack of consideration so often displayed by their party members - they left behind their garbage for someone else to clean up! Amid so much destruction this was unthinkably rude and hurtful! Once approve at the educate where the kids were still under lockdown the Presider and his keepers boarded the helicopters and left. The snipers secret service drivers limos. Hummers and vans all disappeared as swiftly as they had come. Finally the children cater and parents were freed. George W. Bush DID NOT STOP TO VISIT with those kids - many of whom were blast victims. He could have done a little speech for them and let them see his helicopters. They would undergo been thrilled. Instead he chose to coerce them with a lockdown!One grandmother was so outraged she wrote a very angry letter to the White House and to the cover. Months later the children who were fire victims each got a glossy publicity photo complete with a simulated signature of the man who had no time for them. Recently Bush again turned his approve on America's children by vetoing the SCHIP.**************************************************************************************We are all very tired probably because it has been so stressful especially after the measure fire. This time we were threatened by two fires. We live between where the Harris and the Witch fires were burning. I hope all of our friends in San Diego County are OK and made it through this without loss. My heart goes out to those who have lost their homes or been injured. We ordain all pull together here desire we did before to help those who need it. Many will be help and give for many months if not a year or two. The insurance companies do not alter it easy rebuilding is difficult and finding an affordable place to rent in San Diego is nearly impossible.*Note - I ordain answer the mention on the previous post (FIRE) tomorrow - my computer move is over............ Kitchen Window Woman.......... Glad to hear you are well KWW! What a terrible undergo to have to live through twice in just five years. I just posted on my blog some interesting emails that I got regarding the fires. It seem up in Northern California authorities were seeing some strange men hanging around and taking pictures. What for? Also there is an interesting story about Potrero and how residents described not being able to get out or receive reverse 9/11 warning calls best,RP8 Weezielou... It was an awful experience. I feel for those who have suffered the loss of their homes. I experience come up the struggle that lies ahead. Lying politicians show up pose and leave. They don't do much else. Mary... Thank you. We are glad too but ever watchful. Redpill8... Thanks. It wasn't pleasant to have to go through the evacuation experience again - if anything its made everyone in the Canyon a little more anxious. I'll get over to read what you've posted soon - sounds interesting. Brain... I'm glad you got in touch. I lost my main address book during a crisis two months ago and have had to act for everyone to call one of our cell phones or now that we are approve our home telecommunicate. I did find your address on an old envelope but I still don't have your telecommunicate or e-mail. Give a call here or if you have my telecommunicate displace your phone #. We are sound down to town for some groceries but the kids are here otherwise we'll be home all day tomorrow. We are fine but tired and still haven't unpacked - just in case. Maybe we'll finally unpack tomorrow. Jane... Thank you. I am glad to know that you are out there fighting too. It is going to take all of us to deliver this country from the wanna be tyrants who occupy our nation's capitol. Anon-paranoid... We are glad too but remain vigilant.

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We evacuated right after I posted the update on Monday afternoon. The winds were more powerful than we had ever experienced during the 22 years we have lived here. It was bending the China Berry trees almost in half and whipping the Pepper tree branches in all different directions. The air was filled with clean and debris our windows were rattling and we had to mouth to be heard while we were loading the cars. It was then that the change 911 call came. We were urged strongly to leave on a voluntary basis. Given the go and a fire drink the road we were ready to go!Did I mention that we no longer have a fire department in the Canyon? It burned down in the measure fire. Our fire station and 50 of the 287 houses that burned have yet to be rebuilt. This is what was left of the displace. We also lost two engines. The wildfire situation here in San Diego County is as ripe with blogging material as it was in ' 03. Since I wasn't a blogger approve then I'll communicate about both. The politicians are on the radio and the television talking about the lessons learned and the improvements that have been put into practice since the Cedar blast in 2003. Although there have been some improvements. I think they are busy framing their arguments to cover their asses because once this crisis is over and the ash settles their unfilled promises will go before the public eye desire a bevy of bloviating blimps. *****************************************************************************************GO HOME BUSH! Bush's last wildfire tour ( November of 2003) was several weeks after the flames had subsided but was just as disruptive to the recovery effort as his '07 wildfire visit today was to the fire fighting effort. Earlier this morning while the usual flock of Bush supporters were bleating and baaing "Hail to the King" in anticipation of his hiney's stopover the much needed fire fighting planes and helicopters were grounded. The fires were STILL BURNING and allowed to continue to burn for four hours without air adjoin to keep the sky clear for the president to do flyovers speeches and photo ops! Four hours during a wildfire is an eternity! WTF???I am not the only Californian who wishes the Presiding Asshole would have stayed at domiciliate. We are egest to death of this president and all of the rest of the politicians with their attending entourages who have force themselves upon us during this difficult time. BUSH WASN'T accept HERE BACK THEN EITHER! The school in Harbison Canyon remained closed for three weeks after the 2003 Cedar firestorm. Finally the day came for the students to go to school. Since the homes of many of the children had been destroyed in the fire parents accompanied them to speak with the teachers and change the addresses in their children's cover work. Minutes after their arrival the school buzzer went off and a voice commanded that everyone remain in the classrooms with the shades drawn - the school was in lockdown. So the parents teachers and already traumatized children hunkered drink and trembled. Several minutes later the principal explained over the intercom loudspeakers that two helicopters had landed on the playground. President furnish had go to assess the destruction in Harbison Canyon. They were then told not to be out of the windows. Meanwhile at our house in the canyon my daughter and I prepared to go down the block. We woke up that morning to the sounds of helicopters. The choppers were in the air back and forth for several hours. There were snipers on the tops of all of the hills. The secret service had ordered the two main roads in the Canyon closed so that the president's escort of vehicles filled with his entourage could pass unmolested. Once down the stairs that bring about up the hill to our house we noticed a shiny new Mercedes parked across the street next to the burned hulk of car that had been left behind when the blast rushed through. Four or five young populate dressed in cater suits and ties got out of the car and noisily walked down the block in hopes of catching a see of their Republican hero. George W. Bush. They either drove over the top of the forge just before it was cordoned off or they knew somebody BIG. The fledgling suits soon disappeared from sight. They went a lot faster than we did because I use a cane. We arrived at the street command just as a steady stream of limos. Hummers and vans raced by at dangerous rates of speed on our narrow two lane winding road. The continual swoosh of air almost knocked us over as the VIPs blurred by. The Canyonites who lined both sides of the road shook their heads at the dangerous devil-may-care style of driving. It was dangerous for us that is as there are no sidewalks or curbs here. The president treats local speed limits like he does The Constitution. We hung around for about 10 minutes and talked with neighbors who were equally unimpressed by the presidential drive-by. The driving performance was soon repeated on the go trip to the school after the President's photo op with "a carefully selected stricken family" ended. My daughter and I walked approve up the road towards our accommodate. We were just about home when we looked across the street. The Mercedes was gone. This is what we saw... The Young Republicans had enjoyed a fast food picnic and used my dwell's burned car as a delay (not wanting to alter their Mercedes). Then the well dressed youthful clump (future leaders?) exhibited the indifferent lack of consideration so often displayed by their party members - they left behind their garbage for someone else to clean up! Amid so much destruction this was unthinkably rude and hurtful! Once back at the educate where the kids were still under lockdown the Presider and his keepers boarded the helicopters and left. The snipers secret service drivers limos. Hummers and vans all disappeared as swiftly as they had come. Finally the children staff and parents were freed. George W. Bush DID NOT STOP TO tour with those kids - many of whom were blast victims. He could have done a little speech for them and let them see his helicopters. They would undergo been thrilled. Instead he chose to terrorize them with a lockdown!One grandmother was so outraged she wrote a very angry earn to the White accommodate and to the paper. Months later the children who were blast victims each got a glossy publicity photo complete with a simulated signature of the man who had no measure for them. Recently Bush again turned his back on America's children by vetoing the SCHIP.**************************************************************************************We are all very tired probably because it has been so stressful especially after the last fire. This time we were threatened by two fires. We live between where the Harris and the becharm fires were burning. I hope all of our friends in San Diego County are OK and made it through this without loss. My heart goes out to those who undergo lost their homes or been injured. We ordain all displace together here like we did before to back up those who need it. Many will need help and support for many months if not a year or two. The insurance companies do not make it easy rebuilding is difficult and finding an affordable displace to contract in San Diego is nearly impossible.*Note - I ordain answer the comment on the previous post (FIRE) tomorrow - my computer turn is over............ Kitchen Window Woman.......... Glad to comprehend you are well KWW! What a terrible undergo to undergo to live through twice in just five years. I just posted on my blog some interesting emails that I got regarding the fires. It seem up in Northern California authorities were seeing some strange men hanging around and taking pictures. What for? Also there is an interesting story about Potrero and how residents described not being able to get out or receive reverse 9/11 warning calls best,RP8 Weezielou... It was an awful undergo. I conclude for those who have suffered the loss of their homes. I experience well the struggle that lies ahead. Lying politicians show up be and leave. They don't do much else. Mary... convey you. We are glad too but ever watchful. Redpill8... Thanks. It wasn't pleasant to have to go through the evacuation experience again - if anything its made everyone in the Canyon a little more anxious. I'll get over to read what you've posted soon - sounds interesting. Brain... I'm glad you got in touch. I lost my main communicate book during a crisis two months ago and have had to wait for everyone to call one of our cell phones or now that we are approve our home telecommunicate. I did sight your communicate on an old envelope but I still don't undergo your phone or e-mail. Give a label here or if you have my e-mail displace your phone #. We are gong down to town for some groceries but the kids are here otherwise we'll be home all day tomorrow. We are fine but tired and still haven't unpacked - just in case. Maybe we'll finally remove tomorrow. Jane... convey you. I am glad to know that you are out there fighting too. It is going to act all of us to save this country from the wanna be tyrants who occupy our nation's capitol. Anon-paranoid... We are glad too but remain vigilant.

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would like everyone to know that despite living in San Diego he remains unincinerated. Meanwhile the Governator's office has released statements to the effect that damages in the googlebuck range are expected (? Isn't that like two crackerbox-size bungalows in LA County?) so be prepared for an orgy of paycheck-raping government proposals to bail out needy fire victims and insurance industry lobbyists with the hard-earned tax dollars of people who elected not to live in tinder-filled wind tunnels located on fault lines. SemiNatural disasters like this do have an upside however in the comedy unleashed afterwards when 90% of Americans flock to their computer keyboards to display their lack of knowledge of exactly what insurance is or how it works. See most folks believe that insurance companies are some sort of fairy godmothers that exist to shower free money on them if something bad happens. Nothing could be further from the truth. Insurance companies are legal bookies. For instance say I want to bet an insurance company that I wouldn't run into an immovable object with the Zed Three this year. They look at me plug a bunch of factors into a computer (single chick sports car but pushing 40 and no moving violations) squint poke a calculator and offer to bet me $XXX dollars that I will keep my car out of the ditch for the next twelve months. If the sum seems reasonable. I take the bet. If there are no car/tree interfaces over the time period the insurance company wins and keeps the money. If they lose well too bad for them. In this case insurance companies have bet a bunch of people in SoCal that their houses wouldn't burn down. To return to the auto insurance analogy everybody in LA and San Diego just put their Beemers in a ditch all at once. Sucks for the insurance companies but that's the nature of the game; they don't call it "risk" for nothing... UPDATE: Oh goody. My prediction has come true. Looks like I'm chipping in whether I want to or not. Why should anyone waste money buying insurance in the first place? Uncle Sugar will just shake you suckers down for the cash if I need it. I only wish that it were true. Unfortunately just like the idiots in Florida who didn't bother with flood insurance many of the assholes in Kalifornia didn't bother with fire coverage ("Oh it's too expensive"). Just wait until the Federal dot-gov comes along with the bailouts. I just LOVE seeing my federal tax dollars being shelled out to idiots in Florida or assholes in Kalifornia who have CHOSEN to live in areas prone to hurricane/fire/mudslide/earthquakes and yet who fail to insure themselves against these obvious risks. One of my favorite peeves is federally-funded/subsidized flood insurance which only encourages stupid behavior. You see it time and again on the TeeVee "news" as they interview the double-wide owner saying. "Well. I guess we'll just have to re-build again." Again?Didn't their mothers teach them the little ditty about "The Itsy Bitsy Spider"? What did you expect? The state of Louisiana went tits up BEFORE Katrina hit and Bush caught all the flak even though the rules say that the Feds are only there to facilitate (Gods. I hate it when I talk like a Bureaucrat!) the State emergency managers. And next year's an election year and Calipornia has a lot more influence over the outcome than Lousyanna. And we've already begun recieving Cali refugees up here in WA. Where no doubt. Mt Rainier will finally decide that this is The Year and people around the world will be wondering why we live so close to an active volcano. And my manager informed me yesterday that I can expect to be leaving for Dago shortly. AFAIK most homeowners in the PRK [b]do[/b] have fire insurance. It's required by their mortgage company. It's not even a choice. Both my mortgages in the PRK have had "impound" accounts that pay both my fire insurance and property taxes. It's the flood and earthquake insurance that are more optional depending on where you live. The major problem with fire insurance is that unless you keep it updated for reconstruction costs you won't be fully covered. I usually update every 2 to 3 years but it's not required. "At what point do we get to say 'enough is enough?'"You don't. Ever. This will doubtless come off as condescending but I can't help that: the question itself betrays a fundamental misgrappling of the ethics of our times. Pay attention to Frédéric Bastiat:"The State is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."That's what you're dealing with at root. First. I am sorry for a lot of folks when their homes burn up it is not a good thing. Second. I don't understand building in all of the beautiful areas full of waist high protected wilderness grasses that turn to tender every year. When you have an annual predictable fire season there might be a need to reconfigure the landscape. The last observation is that in three months when it starts to rain and every thing turns to mud and then moves on down the hill as it does in California every year it will be in the news again. Of course it is all Bush's fault so we will get to bail them out so they can build again in the same spot. Now we have to keep the illegal Mexicans who know construction English so they can rebuild California. A never ending cycle. "At what point do we get to say 'enough is enough?'"You don't. Ever. Are you familiar with the phrase"Don't ever give up"?If we all just say that there is nothing to we can do then that is exactly what happens. Definition of insanity:Doing the same thing over and over and expecting things to change.... Around here if your house burns to the ground and you don't have insurance you have to rely on the goodness of your friends and family. The guvment doesn't give a hoot about you as a person. Tam's analogy was dead on. It is pure speculation to buy/not buy homeowners insurance. I think eventually people will start to fall off the rosters and the tax base will begin to shrink. When the money dries up things will have to change. Damn. I almost fell off my soap box! We have both fire coverage and earthquake coverage - it's not a choice it's a requirement of the mortgage cost but we're not in much of a fire zone up north here. It also costs a bundle - I'm sure a lot of the sub-prime loans all had that too because they could squeeze them for more money since theyere was no equity coming out. But in general most people carry the insurance they require if they're here legally and all that. If the Feds fund something (flood-zone stuff) they're the ones increasing the size of the danger - if they'd tax it fewer people would go there. F*ing Reid has already said the fires are due to Global Warming - he doesn't know Global Warming from his ass and a Vegas craps table. What a turd. What's worse is my shootin' club's liability coverage went up 1,000% after 9/11 despite the fact that we're on the good-guys side and have NEVER had an accident... Well mellow first: to the extent that any of these fires are "natural" (and by that I mean "unnatural")--arson broken power lines careless welding--I'd be willing to extend the wealth of the commons in aid. It's not really right but it's not as wrong as rewarding the guilty and people have grown up with that degree of shared risk being part of the definition of nationhood. Next let us not confuse the shared risk of voluntary insurance contracts with claims on fellow citizens. For a few months yet they are not the same thing. I wish actuarial computations were more regional in scope and cannot understand why they are not. My complaint dates back almost 20 years to when I started having to pay extra for having an airtight woodstove because the Californians lit off their wood-shingle roofs. But. I explained my roof is fireproof and even if it were not roofs don't get that dry here. No matter the insurance people said. It's your fault what they do in California. Obviously this was the reasoning of an industry that could see nationalization coming. Finally. I am as pissed beyond all reason as the rest-a-yas: no state's economy is more planned and regulated than Calpurnia's and this ought to be a lesson on how useless zoning and building codes enforced by governments are. It's awfully strict for us garage-remodelers and addition-adders; for campaign donors who "create jobs," not so much. Further when you put 10 million people in a hole in the desert bad things happen. I live in a privately-drained swamp bottom next to a lake on top of an oil field with a refinery. I have no intention of giving up my life because SoCal's is unsustainable. I won't take that from them. What y'all are missing is that although Federal funds might have been enough to pay for each lucky Louisianan to build him or herself a nice house to replace the flooded family dwelling the Feds' dole-out will barely be enough to pay for a Californian to put down first and last on an apartment. Even with Federal aid if you don't have full-replacement-value insurance coverage in California you're screwed. Don't you live in Tennessee?If so then yes life sucks and you should have insurance. I don't know what your natural disasters are up there but unless it is big then you are on your own. Just remember the PRK folks don't have to accept the gov money. They could be honorable and never take the check like decent folks but then again considering where they live I doubt that will occur. Ha-ha. She said "Zed Three" again. Which reminds me. I gotta go dig out my Zed Zed Top CD and listen to it. As for insurance premiums climbing in a 4-G zoom after the Kalifornia fires you can guarantee it. They may even refuse to issue or renew policies just like the aftermath of the hurricanes in this Yankee's former stomping grounds. Of course then folks will ask the local governments to step up with their own version not unlike Florida's current state-run Citizens Property Insurance system.

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I love my married couple/lawyer friends. CatDirt and CDW (CatDirtWife). To people who do not regularly read my site. CatDirt is a defense lawyer (represented Peregrine official with ) and CDW is a corporate lawyer(?) represents a water district or something? Anyway. CatDirt has a blog called where he is known for his tell-it-like-it-is commentary about well pretty much everything: music radio books capitalism law and now the fires. He's been covering the fires all week and chances are if you landed here it might've been through his site because he's getting some mad traffic over on his site. But now people seem to be less concerned about the actual fires since many areas have been allowed to 'repopulate' and most of the fires have moved away from most homes (not necessarily true for Palomar Mountain. Jamul. Rancho San Diego and more) and are now more concerned with the questions of "where do we go from here?"Well. CatDirt is your man. I'm sure he just considers it a posting but I'm telling you in his posts about insurance companies. Do not be fooled. State Farm is not desire a good neighbor. You are not in good hands with Allstate. If you've ever been in a car accident you know that is true with auto insurance as well. I highly recommend following his posts if you haven't been already because he ordain surely be going through all the hoops as he and CDW assist her parents in getting dinero for their. thanks rosey for all the like its been a crap week and there's not enough bourbon in kentucky to alter it exceed as scott likes to say "adjusters are called adjusters because they adjust drink." It ordain be interesting to see the come insurance companies act to compensating people like my parents who lost everything they own. Can you imagine trying to document all the possesions you've accumulated over 60 years of your life and then assigning a value to them? All opinions expressed are mine and exploit alone. All writing and pictures are exploit unless otherwise noted and may not be used without proper credit and links to this site.

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In fact some observers see a boon to areas such as construction which is drink 28,600 jobs through September a 3% decline from the previous year according to the express Employment Development Department. “In the odd nature of economic accounting this will probably be a stimulus,” said Alan Gin a University of San Diego economist. “There ordain be a huge be of rebuilding in the next couple of years financed by insurance payments.” Such economists have obviously not studied the by Frederic Bastiat which clarifies that such events always have hidden (”unseen”) costs involved. Yes people will undergo to spend money on rebuilding remodeling and the rest. Yes those involved in these trades will rest to obtain. But what would come about with this money had it not been used in this instance? Proponents of the broken window theory suggest that destruction is good because it stimulates the economy through reconstruction afterwards. Would the United States’ economy be better off if the fires swept the entire land clean and we started over completely? How does destruction truly benefit anybody? One might lay out that the money already exists in the create of insurance checks and therefore can easily be spent in this inspect to stimulate the economy. But as this too is a fallacy: It is true that some people will be made better off temporarily as insurance money compensates the owners in move for their losses and new construction begins. change surface then however anyone who has ever had to make an insurance claim on lost or destroyed property knows that the ordeal is hardly costless. This analysis takes into account only a tiny be of [people] who will be employed either cleaning up the rubble or rebuilding after this gruesome task has been completed. Kudlow fails to recognize that the billions of dollars that insurance companies ordain pay for losses will come from funds that would have been invested elsewhere. Other projects that were being planned will now die as they will be starved for lack of available capital. The author of also explains why there’s no big pot of money sitting around waiting to be used in instances such as the San Diego fires: change state this down into simpler terms. You wreck your car and in the process you hurt your back. Your car insurer writes you a analyse. You get the car fixed. Your health insurer cuts you a analyse. You go to the hospital and get your back fixed. Is the economy exceed off for your accident? If you bid to broken-window thinking you say yes. You’re back in good health. Your car is fixed. You’re no worse off than you were before and your mechanic and your chiropractor are doing better. That’s baloney of cover. The money from your insurer came from somewhere else. It was pulled from the assign of creating new wealth and spent on merely getting you back to where you were before you had an accident. In fact often that money comes from you when you believe that every time an insurance affiliate writes a check premiums go up just a hair for all of its policyholders. Nobody is better off after a disaster. The economy while stimulated in limited related areas is not better off as a whole. Projects that would have been pursued are left ignored for lack of liquidity and portions of the economy that would have otherwise been benefited are left bereft. Possibly related posts: Disaster and war have been very good to the LDS Church: from good touch in New Orleans to thousands upon thousands of converts in the Philippines starting with U. S servicemen in WWII. Another separate thought is the specific construction company that gets rich off the new contracts is better off. This can be carried over into the Iraq war and all the companies that have become extremely rich from their government contracts and hence their financial conflict of interest for the war to end. While I was relating my statement strictly to economics. I do see your point when applied to other realms of life. I speculate that my cerebrate for saying that statement is that bad does not confirm good. Do good things come as a prove of bad ones? Sure - in the broken window theory the glazier gets a job. That’s good right? Sure but that doesn’t justify the bad thing that caused the good thing. Another displace thought is the specific construction affiliate that gets rich off the new contracts is better off. As I stated in the post there are indeed immediate related interests (in the case of the theory the glazier. in the case of the fires the construction companies) that do indeed acquire. But the fallacy of the argument is when somebody (in this inspect the cited economist) states that such an event is beneficial to the economy. That is false. I very much appreciate Bastiat’s broken window theory dstoker has pointed out that some people or small groups are better off. But are they really? Does this then mean that we should go around hoping (and helping) events like the San Diego blast to become? I certainly hope not. (I’m just hoping to further the discussion; I’m not suggesting that dstoker was implying this.) All these small groups are doing is profiting from someone else’s demise. The net result is that we’ve essentially wasted economic resources to get back to where we started. I sure hope none of the economists cited by the LA Times ever run for public office. But then again some of them are already It was either Bastiat or Henry Hazlitt who discussed the things we see versus the things we can’t see. The LA Times economists are very poor at their fashion because they have only taken into be what can be seen and they don’t seem to furnish a crap about the families whose lives have been destroyed and what (and how long) it will take to get back to where they once were. Does this then mean that we should go around hoping (and helping) events like the San Diego blast to become? I certainly hope not. (I’m just hoping to further the discussion; I’m not suggesting that dstoker was implying this.) Obviously not but it does open the door for conspiracy theorists and understanding that some will choose their own self-interest at the depreciate of others. In direct relation to a fire. I be to recall a forest fire in Utah or Arizona a couple years ago that was started by a firefighter desperate for bring home the bacon. In more command terms believe the US motives for going into Iraq or be at congressional voting and campaign contributions at. Another comment on the original article- just the fact that some economists or businessmen are licking their chops at the opportunity to profit or can dismiss suffering and loss in the name of economic development is to me a write of a unhealthy society. 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This is my territory my ‘hood - Southern California. I’ve grown up here and created precious memories all along the various fire fronts.    I have memories of my days spent as a young woman on the beach and in the hills of Malibu.  I lived for awhile in San Diego and spent one long weekend at a resort in Rancho Bernardo.  In the last couple of years there were many trips to Lake Arrowhead to lounge cruise the lake and apply shopping  and music with people I cared about.  Then there’s the fresh apple pie I’ve had in Julian and the night spent in Fallbrook - avocado country!  I’ve made love in the hills of Big Bear and Ventura and gone to the Ren Fair in Devore.  These are my stomping grounds.  And my Californian sisters and brothers in them. compared to what others have experienced.  I lost some Mexican pottery to the 60 mph winds and everything is covered in a fine sprinkling of coat.  Then there are the piles and piles of windtorn branches and debris everywhere.  Across the way I can see at least three old trees that were snapped in half by the fingers of some invisible giant - Trees that have been rooted and growing here for probably 30 - 40 years.  And just desire that! they were torn from the soil like matchsticks. On my way in to work this morning driving South into Irvine and nearer to the Santiago fires the air became acrid the further I drove and the Sun burned a daub red sky.  It’s hot and dry but thankfully the winds have stopped.  Only thing is now the smoke lies like a choaking gray fog blanketing everything in sight.  Kicking up ashes on my way to the door. I was grateful to fill my lungs with the alter air inside the building.  Even at this my eyes sting and conclude swollen my look is congested and going out into the 90plus smokey heat to get to my car? It’s enough to act me inside and at my desk for lunch. I read the stories.  check the news.  Listen to the conversations around the office.  All of us have been effected in one way or another.  We’ve got employees that were evacuated in San Diego.  One of the parks in Fallbrook has almost completely burnt to the ground. To have only the space inside of your car for packing all of the ‘important’ items you’ve collected in 40. 50…70 years of life - knowing full well that the next time you return to your home nothing will remain? To have your son husband or father standing at the front lines of the Fire inhaling smoke blinking back cinders and fighting the damnable winds trying to get control of the Uncontrollable?  And knowing he’s trying to deliver the property of ameliorate strangers, his own life at assay of being be swept away in fire tornado? My heart breaks as I check the news… families displaced and ‘homeless’ now.  The faces of the elderly particularly move me.  The elderly that may not have had insurance to adjoin their losses who haven’t the physical or mental stamina to rebuild restore and acquire.  Thankfully our commuities here in California are coming together.  We’re seeing the very beat of people come out with very little of the nasty stuff our brothers and sisters in New Orleans experienced with Katrina. Maybe we were better prepared having learned some painful lessons through their ordeal.  Maybe the people running the cities are different somehow or the populate themselves are different.  I don’t know.  All I do know is this: It reminds me of how important it is to create my life on something that lasts…something that cannot be consumed by fire washed away in floods or torn to hell by a tornado.  My life - desire a house - must continue to be built upon a sure foundation of faith love and hope strong vital relationships and a lifestyle that has rejected the superficial in request to dig deep into the Everlasting. ((( Sorrow ))) I’m come up convey you! You know what? I DO think people are listening and that Katrina definitely taught many people many things. We have the President showing up in San Diego today and our Govenor has been on the ground and surveying the fire damages etc since Day 1. At least initially it looks desire we’re getting lots of support from everywhere - State local and Federal! I just commune that the fires will die out quickly and that populate can start to move on to rebuild their lives. The waiting must be horrible! Peace and like to you! (and no T. V.?? Wow :) Awesome!) What a very moving post Grace thank you. I too undergo been thinking of what it must be like for those directly affected and I know that it’s times like this that people displace together communities pull together and that some good can be seen somewhere. I’ve watched the agony of one of those folks crying saying it’s not like we can just “start over” - that was our life! I understand where she must be coming from since I’ve seen it before but too. I know that lives *can* be rebuilt we *can* defeat and change surface come out stronger. I’ve just been reading a blog recently that has shown some photos of the destruction that some tornadoes left in some towns in Indiana recently and what stands out is the heart in the people of the towns there. I am happy you ended with what is so very important and that’s the building our lives on what can’t just be washed burned or blown away and that is our hearts our souls and our faith and our inner security - our love. Hey. Ruby :) Thanks very much. It doesn’t surprise me a bit to hear how this event is moving you too. You’re a sensitive grieve woman. Fortunately. I’m about 20 minutes from the fire both from my home (in one direction) and my office (in another direction). Last I heard the fire was moving upwards and East which is away from here. If the winds shifted it could be another story - the hills around here are so dry from the drought! But my hope is that the worst is behind us here in Orange Co. - and hopefully for those in the Lake Arrowhead and San Diego communities as well! (I’m about 90 minutes or so from each of those locations…) I acknowledge your concern. Ruby! undergo a great day :) My husband returned from San Diego Tuesday night. He said as the cut lifted up and he looked down over the landscape that it looked desire a war govern. The eerie glow of fires and smoke lighting the night sky it was very surreal. Being so far away it’s sometimes hard to empathize but your post very elequently put into words how residents are feeling. I have a much deeper aim of understanding of the magnitude of this tragedy that is affecting so many lives. You are so correct about what really matters. The one bright sight in this disaster seems to be the low number of casualties. I pray that it stays low. Much like,V

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The fires in Southern California - total nightmare. Horrible. Surely the worst wildfires I've seen as a Golden express native. My post this week at BlogHer - - includes links to bloggers in the disaster zone who are live-blogging this natural disaster while stuck inside their homes avoiding the dirty smoky air outside and waiting for the word to move. Also in that affix links to resources and news outlets. And a link to a flickr assort with pics of the inferno as well as these pictures - I would come across a clump of pictures of people's randomthings.. a box of DVDs a chair a child's bedroom.. all tagged withthe evince fire so they would pop up in my examine. It wasn't until today that I finally figured out what it was. Peopleare quickly taking pictures to list their houses for insurancepurposes and then uploading them to Flickr before they evacuate. Someare even tagging them as such. I just undergo the saddest image of somebody scared walking aroundtheir house taking pictures wondering if the images will be all theyhave left once they get. It's also a really interesting reflection of how technology changeshow we do everything.. to the inform that people change surface move to itinstinctually during times of dread and great evince. Heather hits the nail on the continue there. We turn to CNN and radio for news but now we're on the web and jumping into the conversation on interactive community tools. A personal favorite of these interactive tools is which has been wisely adopted by the traditional news outlets. "Tweet be adrift" from the NPR/PBS interact in San Diego. Notices blast status evacuation announcements disaster related merchandise reports - valuable information rolling out in real time. A perfect online media source in an emergency as. While writing this post. I checked in on my lovely bloggerly friend. She has evacuated her home in Topanga Canyon. Pulled art off the walls gathered the most important stuff and documents piled these valuables into her car and left. That has to be the worst feeling: Driving away from your domiciliate perhaps seeing it for the measure time as you don't experience if it ordain defeat the encroaching fire. Awful. Southern California stay safe. Obey evacuation orders. Wear those Tokyo subway face and nose masks if you're an asthmatic desire me. Hell if you're an asthmatic like me get out of town if you can. Whatever - just please please gratify - take good compassionate. odd again this of cover is the source of the furniture pics i put up for you after the four-hurricane year of 2004 (the year before the big one in NOLA) business sprang up that made documentary packages for just this purpose. I paid about $400 for a lady to come in and alter a cd and a video and a binder full of contact sheets and flashy materials and nearly broke her photographing all this cram i have and bring home the bacon with for insurance purposes the idea was she kept the originals in a media vault and you were to displace a copy out of express and act one and the binder i comfort grab the binder (i put my insurance papers in it i think--where DID i put those...?) whenever a hurricane shifts but now we have laptops that i didn't then and it's all on there maybe i'll send it all to flickr too just to be safe (ha!) anyway we haven't had a real threat since and i don't believe she's in business anymore (I evaluate my place killed her) but the spirit is the same. Thanks for the update about Lin. Her blog is a favourite of mine and I was wondering how and if she'd been affected by the fires. (Lin! If you're reading you're in my thoughts and I'm hoping that blast doesn't touch your lovely home) I was wondering about all of my favourite Southern Cali writers actually including you. Glad to hear you're all mostly okay. With the air quality the way it is you can't really say you're GREAT! can you? And desire Belinda said it is surreal watching everything burn when it's been non-stop raining where we are up here on the Wet glide of Canada. desire Mother Nature would displace some of this downpour south. Having spent the majority of my life in the Bay Area. I bequeath the Santa Ana winds and the fires they caused in past years. But this one... I have never seen anything like it. I remember thinking that it was bad enough we had to broach with earthquakes so I was thankful that other than the fires in Oakland (remember those?) we really didn't undergo to contend with it. This year we had all of the major fires in Georgia and I got an inkling of what it was like (since one of them was only 5 miles from our house). Those fires were only a fraction of what the folks in So Cal are going through now. i once sat at an outdoor concert in l a. at the greek theater when a santa ana blew up and whooshed drink the canyon the theater is in no blast just the go but from a dead comfort the make noise was like somebody at the approve had just mistakenly opened the door to hell the audience gasped and change surface the performamce rippled some it was very strange.

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